White Horse Podcast
White Horse Podcast -- hosts Devidasa Kawal and Michael Drapak with a white horse; themes across leadership, business, law, healthcare, technology and AI, and education
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Building trust before you build anything else
Business

Building trust before you build anything else

What earns a leader permission to grow.

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What healthcare leaders see coming next
Healthcare

What healthcare leaders see coming next

Steady leadership when the ground keeps shifting.

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Technology, AI, and staying human in the loop
Technology & AI

Technology, AI, and staying human in the loop

Keeping judgment and people at the center.

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Devidasa Kawal

About Devidasa Kawal

Devidasa Kawal is an executive leader and cultural strategist who works where business, the arts, and community meet. She helps organizations -- and the people who run them -- build relevance and trust, and turn attention into something that lasts. Her background runs from executive coaching and growth strategy to leading large, consultative sales and the multi-million-dollar revenue that trust-based relationships create. She has worked closely with mission-driven and cultural institutions, including work connected to the Tampa Museum of Art and to education initiatives across the region. She is the founder of TunieandCo, a digital media platform built around editorial storytelling and brand development, and she splits her time between Tampa Bay and New York City. On White Horse, that same instinct -- clarity, discipline, and relationships over noise -- shapes every conversation.
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Devidasa Kawal and Michael Drapak host deep conversations with leaders across business, healthcare, technology, law, and AI.